Howdy. It‚Äôs been a while. ūüėČ

We’ve just released our first, ummm, well, anything in two years – and it’s a new r¬≥ mix of always – a song that originally appeared on hey… that’s not a tootsie¬ģ roll… in 2009. You can listen to it or download it from Free Music Archive, or on Bandcamp. (And yes, we’ve finally enabled the “name your price” feature on Bandcamp many kind people asked us to put in place so they can support us directly. But remember: it’s still free. Hey – old habits die hard, y’know…)

This song carries a special meaning for us.

To be honest, always is pretty atypical of what we do: it’s quiet, spare, no weird instrumentation‚Ķ and it‚Äôs the closest thing to a “love song” than we’ll ever record again.

It’s one of our oldest songs – our files show us working on it as early as November 2003…

… and it’s also the very last thing we were working on when Wendy suddenly lost control over her voice in late 2004, just before we moved to Mexico Beach.

Within a couple of months, she could barely swallow.

Six months later – after the first of two throat operations – we were told point-blank that she would never sing again.

And 4 years later, always was also the very first thing Wendy sang just to prove to herself that she WOULD sing again. (In fact, the vocal take used in this version is that take.)

In essence, this song changed everything about our musical direction – but to us, it was about something much bigger:

To us, it’s about Permanence. And Perseverance.

Whenever we hear it, it tells us to Never Give Up.

So… three weeks ago, out of the blue, in the midst of the intensifying maelstrom that‚Äôs been our life of late, we received a request for a high-quality (read AIF/WAV) version of always that could be used within a soundtrack.

The version on htnatr was a rushed mix – and we always thought we needed to go back & “do it right…”

… but we never did. (Life comes at you fast.)

We checked out that rushed 2009 mix – and even though we’re still manically fighting the total clusterfuck that has forced our current 3-year hiatus (more surgery while needing to move – we’ll post about this later), we immediately just dropped everything to go back & do this song justice: to finally “do it right.”

We realized we needed to do this – not just for a soundtrack, or to make it sound better, but to remember who we are and what we believe in.

We see so many people lately – so many of our friends – suffering through horrible personal battles while The Disaster Named 2017 continues to shit on us all.

And as wave after wave of horseshit falls on top of us all, it’s so damned tempting to just give up, just give in, just let these waves of hopelessness wash over us…


Don’t stop fighting the good fight.

Because those good things about being human – being humane – are still worth fighting for.

14 years after we first started on working on it, 12 years since Wendy was told she’d never sing again, 8 years since she proved everybody wrong & we released it Рand after all of the many, many other battles we’ve dealt with just to survive & get to this moment…

We think we finally got it right.

We’re Still Here.

And we’re still making music, dammit.

Consider this song as our small token of resistance.

Never Give Up.

k&w ūüėČ

all souls day, 2017

p.s. mzkitty sez hi

Well, Hell

Okay – so we haven’t updated the site (heck, we haven’t even looked at the site) for 16 months.

Hey, it’s been a bit… Busy.

Wait – you’ve been away for 16 months & that’s all you’re going to say about your absence?

Well, yeah.

Just let us get through Wen’s next surgery & we’ll fill you in soon.


We promise.


k&w ūüėČ


p.s. if things go well, we do have plans…

p.p.s. knock on wood…

p.p.p.s. mzkittysezhi

It’s actually unborked

We fixed this website.

By ourselves.

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

Now, maybe now, we’ll finally¬†post something substantive – maybe even very, very soon.

Y’know, maybe even something thought-provoking.


In the meantime, here’s Luna as a kitten.



Hey, we’re not above pandering to the public with¬†cuteness.


more soon


P.S. please don’t tell mzkitty we posted that

Okay, it’s really borked

Per our previous post about our site being somewhat borked, it seems our site is… well, seriously borked.

Which means get get to make an all-new one! From Scratch! 

(Just imagine our enthusiasm thinking about that project.)

Anyway, in the meantime, you can read this post we made on Medium. It’s basically a pep-talk. (And so is it’s title.)

As for our personal going-ons, we’ll have something to report on that shortly. (That Medium post reveals a bit of what’s been happening.)

Meanwhile, we’re actually firming up plans for… stuff. Good stuff.

Then again, if you want to make the Universe laugh – tell it your plans.

So, for right now, our lips are zipped.

But hey, we’re still alive!

And hey, we actually made two posts in less than two months! 

We’ll call it Progress.

Now we just need a copy of WordPress For Dummies.

And time to read it.

And then time to do something about this !@#$! site.


k&w ūüėČ

Yes, We’re Still Breathing

And yes¬†– we’ve borked¬†our site. ¬†(Images. Stuff like that.)

We don’t know how it happened – but it did. (Fits with everything else that’s been going on… and hey, we’ve told you we’re NOT web designers.)

What the hell. At least it’s back up.

As to our silence/absence – well, it’s been, umm, more than insane.

We’ll update everything soon.

And explain what the hell has been going on.


But first we need to find those damned images again.


k&w <:-0

Once More From The Top. With Feeling.

(Note:¬†our regular listener knows this stuff by heart. This is for anyone who may have read our new Aux.Out. article on music discovery & just can’t figure us out.¬†)

“Who the hell are you guys?”

We get that question. A lot.

The short answer:

We’re kirk & wendy. Or wendy & kirk. (We’re kind of interchangeable.)¬†We make music.¬†And our manager is a cat.

That’s usually enough to scare people off.

If not,  we get asked:

“Oh! So what kind of music do you make?”

That’s a question we still can’t answer – even after 12 years of releasing music.

Our best attempt:

another cultural landslide is an on-going experiment: our music is all about Taking Risks. To us, music is a journey,¬†not a destination – so we just go wherever It takes us. We never do the same thing twice: No Two Songs Alike. Ever.¬†This makes us “post-genre,” because… well, genres don’t work well with our stuff. (We’re also shit-stirrers: we want to make people¬†think.)

And once finished, we give our music away for free – because, to us, music is a gift to be shared.

Usually¬†after saying all that, everyone either runs away – or tells us “that’s a lousy business model.

Screw business models.

We Make Music. Period.

You’re still reading? Hmmm.

In that case…

This Is Why We Do What We Do:

Both kirk and wendy were classically trained musicians. We both went to prestigious music schools.

And we both hated our musical education with an absolute passion.

What we experienced was a cookie-cutter approach to music: a way of thinking about music totally foreign to the organic creation & performance of music. You were required to work within one particular genre only. A particular instrument was designed to be used in only one type of music. Maintain the status quo. Don’t push the envelope.


After several years of this crap inside academe & outside in the “real” world, we left the world of music behind us, thinking that making music wasn’t supposed to be a part of our lives‚Ķ

‚Ķ but upon re-meeting each other decades later, we fell back into making music almost instantly – this time with a renewed vigor. It wasn’t that we¬†wanted¬†to make music with each other – we¬†had¬†to make music with each other‚Ķ

And this time we would do what we wanted to do – not what was socially acceptable, and not what was culturally expected. We wanted any music that came from us to be a living thing – even if it ended up looking like the baby from “It’s Alive.” (What the hell. That baby had really cute claws and an awesome growl.)

Most importantly: there would be No Limitations, and No Bullshit Allowed Рand we would do it outside the standard music ecosystem.

We went as far as creating a basic philosophy: seven¬†rules for how we’d make music… and supplemented those rules with seven built-in self-destruct mechanisms.
The another cultural landslide Rules For Making Music:

1)¬†The Music Must Always Comes First.¬†We serve the music – the music doesn’t serve us. When we walk into the studio, whatever comes out, comes out. We plan nothing – not themes, not lyrics, nothing. It comes together on its own, by itself – and that’s what it is.

2)¬†Music is a journey, and never a destination.¬†We don’t know what it will sound like until we get there. No boundaries. No genres. Just music. We will not be pigeon-holed.

3) We will never think about what we make. We will just do it.

4) No egos.¬†That crap just gets in the way of making music and connecting with anyone who would like to hear our music. This translates into¬†acl¬†being a lower case band, with no last names – just kirk & wendy – and no band pictures. (Besides, MzKitty’s own oversized ego would never allow that.)

5) If we’ve done it before, we won’t do it again.¬†That would be boring. And that’s why all of our songs sound so different from each other: because every song¬†must¬†be different. If a new song we’re creating starts sounding like something else we’ve done before, we throw it out. (We have a very large musical graveyard.)

6) Music is a gift to be shared (it literally saved our lives), so we will always give away our music For Free. The sole exception to this rule would be music commissioned & created for a specific purpose (what the hell, that way we could buy more shit to make more music) Рbut even then, a lot of the time we give that music away, too.

7) Most Importantly: We Refuse To Take Ourselves Seriously.¬†We don’t make Art. We make Music. And music should be fun to make.¬†When it stops being fun, we’ll stop. Period.


The another cultural landslide Self-Destruct Mechanisms:

We’re married – and crazy in love with each other – so we decided to made seven more rules to protect what we treasured most: each other, and our music.

1) If it starts to screw up our marriage, We Stop.

2) If it starts to feel like an obligation, We Stop.

3) It must always be fun;¬†even if we’re creating some totally dark & gloomy work, ¬†it must always be fun to create. If we no longer have fun creating, We Stop.

4) If by some astronomically fat chance we became successful at making music to the point it would require us to build an organization to maintain it, We Stop.

5)¬†In fact,¬†if we can’t do it by ourselves, We Stop.¬†(The only exceptions to this rule are in areas we truly,¬†truly¬†suck at – like artwork & websites – because we¬†suck¬†at art, and we¬†really¬†suck at web design.)

6) Our music must always be Honest and From The Heart. If we hear a cash register sneaking its way into a piece of music, we throw the piece out. If all we hear are cash registers, We Stop.

7) Once we release our music, our goal is to connect with every listener as an Individual. We will encourage them to Create. Encourage them to Grow. Encourage them to Think. And most importantly, Give Them Hope. If we can’t do that, We Stop.


We’ve lived by these rules for over 12 years now. This is Who We Are.

So why is it important that we’re telling you these rules?

These aren’t just¬†the rules we live by.

These are our promises to You.

You are not a Wallet.¬†You are not a “Consumer.” You are not a “fan,” or a part of our “fanbase.” We¬†refuse¬†to buy into that leftover 20th Century horseshit thinking.

You Are An Individual – and you deserve to be treated as such.

You are Our Listener – and Our Friend.¬†And we’ll be your friends – if you want us to hang around. ūüėČ

This is how we do things. And we keep our promises.

We are truly honored and humbled that you’ve chosen to listen to us – or, for that matter, read our rantings.

And we thank you for reading this.

Because You matter to us.

kirk & wendy Рaka acl, aka @anothercultand, aka another cultural landslide

P.S. as usual, mzkitty sez hi

It’s About Damned Time.

Okay, so we’ve been slacking here.

Well… not exactly slacking – we’ve just been busy doing other things. And we’ve actually got a bit of news to report:

‚ÄĘ If you’ve been here before, you’ve probably noticed Things Look Different. (If you haven’t been here before – well… Howdy. We’re honored & humbled you’ve come for a visit.)

We’re redoing the entire site – and anybody who knows us knows we suck at website building. We’re still adding stuff, figuring things out (especially for mobile) – so improvements are on the way. ¬†Stay tuned.

‚ÄĘ We’ve spent the last three months or so writing a very long article for one of our favorite music sites: Aux.Out., the long-form arm of Consequence Of Sound.¬†As usual, it’ll probably get us in lots of trouble. Bail money¬†will¬†be accepted. ūüėČ

Update: Here’s the link to the article! The Elephant In The Music Room.¬†

(You should be reading Aux.Out.¬†anyway: they post really great long-form music writing, and we wholeheartedly recommend them – and not just because they’re posting our stuff, either.)

‚ÄĘ Our most recent music is still up at music.anothercultland.com (well, some of it); and some of our not-so-recent music is still up at our alonetone page…

And yes, there are things missing – lots of things, actually – like whole albums & EP’s and whatnot.

That’s because we’re finally embarking on our long-promised Remake/Remix/Remodel effort – so we’ve pulled some of our back catalogue while we work on it, and will be posting remastered versions ASAP… plus there’ll be an all new 5 or 6-song EP of stuff we wanted to do over/do right, entitled¬†beat it with a stick.

We figured this would be a good way to ease back into recording after the death march that¬†last days, last days¬†became – so once we’re done with this project, it’ll be time to do New Stuff. ¬†(Knock On Wood.)

‚ÄĘ And for those who have asked, there are still a few limited-edition signed & numbered last days, last days ¬†posters &¬†CD’s¬†available – and they’re basically free – so grab ’em while you can… ’cause we won’t be doing that again.

So, there you have it: new look, new writing, new stuff on the way.

So maybe we haven’t been slacking after all.


We obviously need to add some slacking to our schedule.

We’ll work on that, too.


Thank you for being there for us Рand always remember: You Matter To Us.


k&w ūüėČ

p.s. as usual, mzkitty sez hi… but you probably already knew that.



Social Isn’t Just Another Word

In our last monster blog post, we explained what we’re doing with our music – and our desire to forge connections with you & Keep It Personal.

Most importantly, we explained why we’re doing it.

A wonderful person read our last post & paid us the ultimate compliment: she called it “radically human.”

That’s Us in a nutshell.

And now we want to take that further.

We want to start a conversation with You.

You see, we don’t believe that “social” is just another way to sell your wares or toot your own horn.

For us, being “social” isn’t supposed to be about “marketing.”

We think “social” is supposed to be about People.

About being Human.

And about sharing conversations, information, joy, sorrow, outrage – and a desire to make things better. In the character-limited posts we all create, we seek to reach out to each other – to open a door, a window, a line of communication – and find a like-mind; someone who will read our posted thoughts, and perhaps respond in kind.

For that reason, we (acl) want to use “social” to take this idea further.

So, on Monday, in our¬†social feeds, you won’t see us doing open posts about our album – instead, we want to start conversations. One-On-One.

This is going to take us a while to accomplish, but starting tomorrow, we’ll send you a series of three or four messages – they will be highly individual in nature (hey, we pay attention to what you post)… and they won’t be spam.


Here’s all we seek to accomplish in these messages:

1) To formally say Hello for the first time (this may seem silly, but hey – we were taught to be polite) and to tell you we appreciate you – because we wouldn’t be following you if we didn’t appreciate who you are, what you do and what you contribute to this world.

2) We’ll probably point you to our album as a way of introducing ourselves – because this particular album represents who we are, what we do & what we believe. Our music is free – and will always be so – and if you like it, it’s yours.

And hey, if you like it, feel free to share it with others. If not, that’s cool. We’re not for everybody, and we know it.

3) Most importantly: To start the Conversation. And perhaps you might start or open up new conversations with others as well.

That’s the meaning of “social” to us – To Start Conversations. To bridge gaps & get us talking to each other, openly and freely, without bullshit.

To be truly human.

And we’re not looking for anything – no favors, no sales or shit, nothing like that.

And perhaps this all sounds corny and stupid – but in this jaded world we currently live in, maybe this type of corny-ass activity is what’s required if we really wish to re-humanize our cold-ass inhumane society.

Again, this will take us time – but we’re dead serious.


We follow you because we like you. We like what’s in your head. And we seek to champion anybody with the courage to create – because let’s face it: whether you make music, write, create art, whatever – even if you view it as just a job, creating is an intensely personal act of courage; it’s baring the core of your being, putting it on display and then shouting out into The Void in hopes that someone, somewhere might be listening.

We’re listening.

And we want to help.




We’re another cultural landslide. We make music.

And we’d like to make your acquaintance.

kirk & wendy

p.s. mzkitty sez hi



Where You Can Find “last days last days”

last days last days is out – and we are truly humbled by how it has been received.

And we are grateful to you. Gracias.

Now, rather than pepper news feeds with multiple posts featuring link after link, we decided to bundle them one place: right here.¬†We’ll add to this as more links come online. (Streaming was supposed to come online last Wednesday. Well, It Was.¬†Yeah. Riiiight. As of right now, Rdio is definitely live; no joy from Spotify & Medianet-distributed streams. Points go to Rdio.)

Remember – our music is ALWAYS Free.

Bandcamp:¬†http://anothercultland.bandcamp.com/ or music.anothercultland.com¬†This is the site to find the best audio quality, since we uploaded here at 24bit/88.2Khz – and as such, we’d recommend downloading it at the highest quality you can handle. IT’S FREE.

Soundcloud:¬†https://soundcloud.com/anothercultland/last-days-last-days-complete¬†This one is special, as it’s the only place on the Net where you can hear the album as if it were a CD – completely gapless, as we designed the album to be. And it’s downloadable, too.

Alonetone:¬†http://alonetone.com/anotherculturallandslide/playlists/last-days-last-days-final-release-version¬†alonetone has been our home away from home since it started; it’s also a great place for musicians to post their music with no hassles and be a part of a community. For free music with no boundaries, it’s the place to be.

YouTube: Yes, YouTube. Heck, we even have our own channel there. (Oooo! Fancy!)¬†With the assistance of MzKitty’s personal photographer AJ Galli (yes, she has a personal photographer – sheesh), we’ve posted simple videos of all 16 of last days last days‘ songs – so if you’d like to post one song in particular within your social feeds, you’ll find a video for it there.

And this link:¬†https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYsrwYuqTyc&list=PLFjdIyKHXlrp6HhLqNG-aDdDNYegQ2eJT¬†should take you to a complete ordered playlist of the entire album. We have found,¬†however, that Playlists don’t seem to translate to mobile platforms. Go Fuckin’ Figure.

Also, it you’d like to make a video of one of our songs, knock yourself out! All our music is CC-BY-3.0, so if you make something and we like it, we’ll tell everyone where to find it.

last.fm:¬†http://www.last.fm/music/another+cultural+landslide/last+days+last+days¬†We think we’ve beaten all the bells & whistles, and you should be able to listen to the entire tracks here instead of the 30 second previews. We think. At least we did enable it, for what it’s worth. We’ll see. You should at least be able to download from here or get it on their “radio” app.

iTunes: Yes, we’re on iTunes – we’ve been there since 2008 – but you won’t find our music for sale, since we don’t sell our music. Instead, search for us under Podcasts – that way we can get it to you for free. (We love subverting commerce.)¬†ūüôā Hell, you can even subscribe & get our stuff whenever we make it.

(Note: looking at their latest listing, iTunes has does something weird with the Podcast section, so things are all bolloxed up as far as track order. When we get a chance, we’ll figure out a way to fix this.)


Streaming is showing up late – but we are definitely live on Rdio (sounds amazingly clear & defined), we are clearly listed on Gracenote & Songza – but Spotify and MediaNet distrbution still have yet to show up. Figures.

Where you won’t find last days last days:

Google Play, Amazon, eMusic. Our music is Free. Not a product. So, not there.

Same goes for Pandora. (No way. More on that in another post.)

iHeartRadio. Clear Channel Radio and acl Do Not Mix. At least not in this lifetime, if we can help it.

We’re still debating about doing¬†Sirius.

Finally, it is quite possible that due to the way digital aggregation works, you will see the album appear on certain sites with Money attached to it; this is an unfortunate artifact of the way aggregation works. DO NOT PAY MONEY FOR OUR MUSIC. We went with aggregation strictly to enable streaming. And we won’t be looking for royalties, either.

So, there you have it. It’s our fondest hope that something in our music will make you smile.

And thank you for listening!

More later…

k&w ūüėČ

P.S. mzkitty sez hi


It’s Free.


last days last days –¬†the new another cultural landslide album – has just been released.

There were times over the last four years we didn’t think we’d ever type that last sentence – but… there it is: music.anothercultland.com¬†ūüėČ (We’ll post additional links shortly.)

And now that it’s out¬†in the wild, we’re doing some pretty unusual things with how we’re releasing it.

Think of this as Our Big Experiment.

This is a long read – but we think it’s a good one.

The Basic Dilemma

Around 18 months ago, this album started telling us it wanted to be¬†promoted¬†(yes, our albums talk to us – it kinda creeps us out, but we’ve learned to accept it) – and we needed to do whatever was required to get the word out.

And, most likely, promoting this album was going to require us to create a CD.

Problem is: we don’t make CD’s.

For all of the 11 years we’ve been making music together, we’ve only released our music in an electronic/downloadable form – we embraced this decision from the very start, as it granted us the freedom to do whatever the hell we wanted to do with minimal cost; and we could then throw our very limited resources into doing one thing, and one thing only: Making Music.

Even better, it allowed us to give away our music for free. Music literally saved our lives – that statement isn’t an exaggeration, and living through that experience had an earth-shaking effect on us (we’ll write about it one day) – so we’ve tried to return that gift by giving our music away, creating a one-on-one relationship with our listener and then encouraging them to embrace their dreams in whatever way possible.

(Yeah, we’re weird. But that’s just who we are.)

So, even though we’ve received a lot of requests to make CD’s, since we didn’t sell our music, and since we believe that having a one-to-one relationship with our listener is awesomely important & manufacturing a mass-produced CD kind-of negates that relationship, making CD’s was something that we were just not going to do.

The Philosophical Hard Decision

The fact that we needed to step away from how we’d always done things to actually create a CD also posed a major philosophical dilemma to us, since we sincerely believe that over-commodification has been the primary eroding factor affecting music today –¬†not¬†file-sharing.

There’s an air of desperation within the music world today: you see it in every promotional Tweet or Facebook mention;¬†you hear it in all the licensing & copyright battles; you read about it with the labels trying to argue rights-termination clauses for music they marketed in the past by trying to tell the courts that the music was actually produced as Work-For-Hire (surprise!). It screams from every battle, lawsuit & online discussion¬†over streaming royalties, or the lack of them thereof; it hides in plain sight, the ever-so-subtle context peeking out from behind every discussion about “music’s value.”

In reality, all those things only revolve around one thing: Give Me Your Money & I’ll Give You Some Music (Or At Least A Limited License To Listen To It).

And that’s seriously fucked-up.

This is a dehumanizing attitude that basically states that people don’t matter – except in large anonymous groups – and all that really matters is What’s In Your Wallet.

Worse yet, this diminishes the music being created: the need to view music as strictly a commerce-generating activity is a corrupting influence, insideously worming its way into the subtext of what’s being created; risks don’t get taken for fear of alienating an existing fan-base, and growth doesn’t occur since that might alienate the core demographic.

And let’s be honest: if you are constantly worried about generating capital, of producing a singular “product” – how can it not affect what you are creating?

Moreover, as a musician, how can all of this background noise not make your listener feel like they don’t matter to you?

And if you don’t care about your listener, why the fuck should they give a shit about you?

It’s as if music has now become an after-thought behind a desperate need to monetize & survive.¬†Image, identity, maintaining fan-base & generating a living wage¬†are much more important that the actual music being created. It’s a devil’s compromise of ever-diminishing returns, one that eventually robs us all blind and sucks the life out of Music.

In essence, it’s putting all those things before what you are creating – thus putting walls up between you and your music.

And that just seems ass-backwards to us.

People are not Wallets. They are individuals – and deserving of the respect as such.

People Matter, Dammit.

And Music is not a product, or content. It’s Music.

Our entire musical mission has been centered around those two simple beliefs.

And as we have stated before, our primary rule in making music is The Music Must Come First. And we have held fast to that principle.


So we were in a quandary – how could we reconcile the need to create & the costs involved in creating CD’s to promote this album ¬†– and at the same time stay true to ourselves, while making some of these CD’s available to our listener – all without violating our stated desire to NEVER sell our music?

That was a toughie.

But… after a great deal of thinking on how to resolve these oppositional forces, we think we’ve found a way.

Let’s Get Physical

We designed the CD’s with a built-in capacity to be¬†personalized, so that each & every one of them are unique – while still providing media outlets with a mass-produced CD.


And we decided that if we were going to do this thing, we were going to do it right – it would be a spiffy CD, and would look like something acl would do, with as little plastic/carbon footprint as possible.

And then the wonderful Rachel Sclare volunteered (!) to work on the cover and actually made it look good. (We are not artists, and you do NOT want to see our original design. No Way In Hell.)

And we ended up with this:



We did deep research into CD manufacturing, got past all the overpriced main players (boy, we have some interesting stories about that side of the business), found a decent small manufacturer in Texas who offered DigiHub technology, locked in a sweet deal at around half the price, and then set aside our paltry income tax refund to create a limited run of 250 CD’s.

Out of that run, we set aside 100 CD’s for our listener. Each CD will be individually signed, numbered – and if asked for, personalized – with the foreknowledge that we will never create a mass-run CD again. (This will be the only time. Period.)

Originally we wanted to give these CD’s away online at no cost whatsoever; but upon discovering that there was no internet platform methodology available at this time to do that ¬†(not yet, but there will be soon) – there was always some minimal charge involved somewhere – we were forced to accept the platform cost issue, but were able to repurpose the platform’s inner workings to our needs.

Also, sending physical stuff out takes money for packaging & mail – and since we’re tapped out (it’s always a bad thing when the local pawn shop people know you by name when they see you at the grocery store), we had to find a way around this as well.

So we struck a happy medium.

Basically, it comes down to this:

If you can pick up the cost of us shipping it to you, we’ll give you the CD for Free.

This also enabled us to finally respond to the many requests we’ve received to make it possible for others to support what we’re doing in some other way than just spreading our music around – i.e. financially¬†(It’s still hard to believe, but we actually do get asked this):

For anyone donating above the minimal shipping/platform costs, we would¬†also send along an “artifact” from the production of last days last days¬†– these could be actual handwritten lyrics, worksheets, all sorts of stuff; and each artifact would be accompanied by a handwritten note explaining what the hell this “artifact” was and how it was significant to last days last days, giving you some insight into our weird-ass working methodology; and we will also be sending you a nice handwritten note, thanking you for your support.¬†(Our mothers trained us to be polite while causing trouble.) And hey, if you want something associated with a particular song, just ask us – and we will find something special for you.

Oh – here’s an example of an Artifact:


We want you to know that you are special to us – that you matter. And that we will NEVER take you for granted.

Also, all donations received above the minimum shipping costs will be use to promote the album – i.e., mailing the CD to media outlets – so you can help us spread acl to an unsuspecting audience. (Cue evil laugh.)


We not only scored an excellent deal in getting the CD’s done, but by the time we got done with discounts and what not, we were actually able to create our first (& only) acl poster basically for FREE.

Now, as stated in earlier posts, we’re not artists. We have weird ideas, but executing them?

Ha. We suck. (See Artifact Example.)

Well, Wonderful Rachel stepped up to bat, took our stupid idea and made it into something even more acl than we could ever have made:



(these are way cool)

And what we did with the CD applies to the Poster:

If you can pick up the cost of us shipping it to you, we’ll give you the Poster for Free, too.

And if you donate above the minimum shipping/platform cost, you get an “artifact,” a handwritten note explaining the “artifact,” and a nice handwritten thank you note as well.

And of course,¬†all donations received above the minimum shipping costs on the poster will be use to promote the album – i.e., mailing the CD to media outlets – so here’s yet another way you can help us spread¬†acl¬†to an innocent & unsuspecting audience. (Cue another evil laugh.)

So if you’ve been wanting to support what we’re trying to do (other than sharing our music with anyone & everyone & telling people about us), there’s now a way to do that – and hell, you get something nifty in return.

Plus you get to spread acl to an unsuspecting world. (Cue… oh, well, you know…)

Finally, we listened to you and created an option to allow you to donate to what we’re doing without getting something in return – yes, finally a “tip jar” – but we’ll still want to send you a thank you note. (Hey, that’s just the way we are. Polite troublemakers.)

And hey, just because it’s how we roll, we also decided we wanted to itemize each & every cost we encountered, and reveal it to you:

CD: at $3, $ .20 to Paypal, $ .30 to Bandcamp, $ .51 for mailer, aproximately $2.07 to mail – we eat $ .10 of the cost (or more)

Poster: at $3.50, $ .20 to Paypal, $ .35 to Bandcamp, $ .90 for the mailer, approximately $2.07 to mail –¬†we may break even (or not)

Of course, on international, we’re going to take a bath.


So there you have it: open, straightforward, ethical. No bullshit.

That said, we estimate our chances of failure at around 92 to 96 per cent.

In other words, odds are we’re most likely going to get creamed.

But we’re going to do it anyway.

You can see we’re not in this for the rock-star treatment… so, then – why the hell are we doing this?


The reason.

Well, of course, the short answer would be: We’re Insane.


But besides that, what it all comes down to is this:


We believe in People.

And we believe music is a gift to be shared.

And we believe in people helping each other. We’ve benefitted from it, and we want to pass it on. Like a virus.

A good virus.

And we believe in encouraging people to create not for commerce, but for the simple joy of creating and sharing that creation with others.

And so we’re putting our money – what little we have – where our mouth is.


We also realize in doing this we’ve just made ourselves Snark-Bait. We’ve painted a big target on our foreheads and hung a KICK ME sign on our backs.

And we’re okay with that.

Because sometimes Principle Matters ¬†– and sometimes it’s the¬†only¬†thing that matters; and we would rather fail miserably in doing something we believe to be right than to succeed in doing something we feel to be wrong.

This is our experiment:

We’re going to believe in people.


This album isn’t about us.

It isn’t about being cool or hip, or fitting in.

It’s about trying to change the way we as a society think about things.

It’s about trying to change¬†the way things are done.

It’s about making a better future.

Being idealistic isn’t stupid.

It means We Give A Shit – about You, about people, about the world we live in.

About Music.

And what’s the hell is wrong with that?

k&w ūüėČ


p.s. mzkitty, as usual, sez hi